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Ichigo is freaking weak.......... it seems that way from the beginning........
you can see the pattern....
Ichigo get totally owned by Byakuya
Ichigo get stronger
In SS, it looks like Ichigo is really going to own everyone...almost eveyone,
then Aizen just stop Ichigo's attack with a FREAKING hand........
then came the Arrancar...
and Ichigo got owned...
joined the Vizard and got stronger....11 seconds at least
still get owned....
and now in Hueco Mundo....
and still unable to fight any arrancar...it's like Ishida and Chad knows Ichigo isn't ready yet.....

can we kill Ichigo now, and let Grimmjow be the hero? because this manga's fans all are loving other characters EXCEPT Ichigo...

this might be attributed to Ichigo's inability to protect his family, friends and comrades.....and the mangakas deliberately making as if Ichigo is that weak.....

And there are 10 arrancar + Aizen+ Tousen + Gin in Hueco Mundo, and only 3 , Ichigo, Chad and Ishida......... do you all really think this is going to a fair fight at all?

Last edited by kljs (2006-09-23 21:09:48)

Asshole wrote:

I've always wondered how strong Tousen really is. Kenpachi handled him and Komamura with the eye-patch. Yet Tousen humiliated Grimjaw, who beat Ichigo by a large margin twice

Ken fought Tousen before Tousen underwent the transformation to a hollow.  Tousen wasn't strong back then.

northwind_zeus wrote:

and kljs, the reason aizen was able to stop ichigo's attack at the sacrificing place, was because his soul slayer's (forgot how to spell the real name) ability is complete illusion. thats how he was able to seem like he was killed, starting the whole layer of events leading them to go to hueco mundo.

Aizen's soul cutter, Kyouka Suigetsu' ability is hypnosis, but the trigger is to show the target the release of the soul cutter once.  However, Ichigo has never seen the release.. Aizen showed all the captains and vice captains it.  Thus, Aizen used the hypnosis to avoid all the attacks from the captains, but against Ichigo, he simply fought head on.  His power was way beyond Ichigo's, that he could simply stop his blade with a finger.  [Ref. Chapter 171 and 174]

i actually would want to see ichigo not die. just retreat after being brought back by either yourichi/urahara or, heres a long shot, commander yama. but, the thing is, i dont think either Aizen, Tousen, or Gin has undergone hollowization. the stone urahara made has not yet been unsealed, and that is what would give the guys in las noches an even bigger margin of power, not like they dont already have one big enough.

ok, this is just a speculation. when the trio that came from the living world get to, if even it happens, to aizen's throne room and find inoue, do you think she will have been made into a hollow or into an espada class type, thus furthering her "god like" powers.

ya, i had a slight suspision about Ichigo and Ishida's dad also, but with the whole "So you finally got your powers back?" thing, im not sure if they would, but i also think the vaizards might help because they would want to get Inoue back to preserve her powers and to possibly help their new prodigy awaken more of his powers.

Deathwing wrote:

man i laughed when i read those two pages

1: http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/ … -07-09.png

2: http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/ … -07-10.png

Chizuru FTW!

what fight?

Espada class arrancar are not those low class arrancar though.....they are freaking hell strong....that even a captain , a former captain have problem fighting with...... and so far, all the Espada class ones are in Las Noches....... with 11 seconds Hollow form, how the hell is Ichigo going to fight even?

no, they have to save Momo...... because she still believes in Aizen....lol.....

kljs wrote:

what fight?

Espada class arrancar are not those low class arrancar though.....they are freaking hell strong....that even a captain , a former captain have problem fighting with...... and so far, all the Espada class ones are in Las Noches....... with 11 seconds Hollow form, how the hell is Ichigo going to fight even?

most of the people at NarutoFan think that the manga is gonna pull the "I'm in Hueco Mundo so it lasts longer!" logic on us.  Hell, it's been done before (Renji: I'm 5 times stronger in Soul Society!)

I want to see ichigo's face when he finds out his daddy is a shinigami

UraRenge wrote:

kljs wrote:

what fight?

Espada class arrancar are not those low class arrancar though.....they are freaking hell strong....that even a captain , a former captain have problem fighting with...... and so far, all the Espada class ones are in Las Noches....... with 11 seconds Hollow form, how the hell is Ichigo going to fight even?

most of the people at NarutoFan think that the manga is gonna pull the "I'm in Hueco Mundo so it lasts longer!" logic on us.  Hell, it's been done before (Renji: I'm 5 times stronger in Soul Society!)

I didn't read anything on narutofan, but I thought of that logic as well. but by that logic, the arrancar would also be stronger...

it's at the fight stage....... so, assuming 3 to 4 episodes for one fight....there is 5 bounto, so it's around 15 to 20 episodes....plus some filler in a filler episode....probably around 25 more..... just my guess...

this bounto thingy will probably last until next year.... from the looks of it... Kariya and the others looks like hard opponents for fight...