#26 2007-06-12 20:32:13

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

seiryu wrote:

I heard a while back (years ago) that they were compressing trash and using it to help prevent Tokyo from sinking. Are they still doing that? If anything they should solve the problem of Tokyo sinking before they attempt something like this.

Wha? I've never heard of that but I'll ask around. Where were they putting the trash??? I wonder if that's got to do with Odaiba. They had to keep adding dirt because the land kept settling into the sea. Even something as simple as that took years and trillions of yen to accomplish.

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i understand that need to have more room... but... wont they just fill it up all over again? its not like making a big building will make the population growth slow down.

Exactly. Sticking thousands of more people in an already crowded city isn't going to help any. Decentralization is the only sensible solution, imo. Problem is, it's easier to get work in Tokyo. Most people who come here would rather be living back in their hometown.

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crossbones wrote:

Sheeeeeit. They might as well have hot chicks in mobile suits flyin' around battling evil cyborgs while they're at it.

That's never gonna happen. Well, never being the next 200 years... They're still paying off all those zany bubble economy projects.

Haha, yeah. However, even if it doesn't get built anytime soon, it's a really interesting project from an engineering standpoint.

Oh, absolutely. I want my giant, cyber, sci-fi lookin' pyramidy thing NOW. I'd love to wander through that thing.

the_laughing_fool wrote:

Wait, so the future Tokyo is going to be like Dangaizer 3?
(grins!!!!)

Hmm. I was thinking Bubblegum Crisis, myself. wink


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#27 2007-06-12 20:44:51

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

the_laughing_fool wrote:

Wait, so the future Tokyo is going to be like Dangaizer 3?
(grins!!!!)

the buildings hanging there made me think of the geofront in Evangelion.


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#28 2007-06-12 20:53:48

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yeah, i thought Evangelion, myself, though i didn't get through the whole video.

bubblegum crisis (not 2040, i refuse to acknowledge that piece of shit was in any way related to the original OAVs greatness) was more of an alternate present type future rather than a huge technological future. actually, to draw a little bit more on my geek trivia, it would probably be A LOT closer in kind to Ghost in the Shell future than anything else, because, if i recall correctly, evangelion's pyramids were underground...


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#29 2007-06-12 22:02:43

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

crossbones wrote:

Sheeeeeit. They might as well have hot chicks in mobile suits flyin' around battling evil cyborgs while they're at it.

That's never gonna happen. Well, never being the next 200 years... They're still paying off all those zany bubble economy projects.

what? I'm intrigued over this bubble economy thing....

SH Archaeologist wrote:

I think it's a cool idea. A dumb one, maybe, but still cool. What would it be used for?

People don't quite seem to be watching the video or even reading whats there... its like a city

guitaguar wrote:

SH Archaeologist wrote:

I think it's a cool idea. A dumb one, maybe, but still cool. What would it be used for?

maybe it will be a future manga and anime studio where the artists can live just to create anime. Like the Hive in that so-so Resident Evil movie.

hahahha maybe , the name of it sounds like an anime thing to me tongue shamizu mega city pyramid ... doesn't quite roll of your tongue tongue

HolyGorge wrote:

huh... ya, not happening anytime soon. even that guy in charge of it said so. rather than just part 1, which really doesnt say much:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsoBAT27pA
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ybBm04D5o
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jt9JWxy0Fg
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6923kXiROg
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzr4UXqhcPg

i understand that need to have more room... but... wont they just fill it up all over again? its not like making a big building will make the population growth slow down.
and this is the first part to that tower documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EYyA2MGWWA

Ooh I got's ta watch these smile thanks

Yeah this seems interesting... but wouldn't the towers swing? that'd be pretty bad... but then again I guess they would be incredibly heavy so it would take a lot to make them swing...

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#30 2007-06-12 22:04:46

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

Vash_ wrote:

Yeah this seems interesting... but wouldn't the towers swing? that'd be pretty bad... but then again I guess they would be incredibly heavy so it would take a lot to make them swing...

The towers don't free hang, they have supports on all four sides, as well as on the bottom.


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#31 2007-06-12 22:24:47

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Foolio wrote:

I heard something or other about it, but never saw it. I think the video might be much older than a year. But that doesn't make it unworthy of discussion tongue

Gaignun87 wrote:

Kite973 wrote:

Was I the only one who saw this on the Discovery channel almost a year go?

I saw it about a year ago too.  National Geographic also did an article about it, as well as popular science.

Bleh. I was kinda hoping I had psychic powers or something.

Anyways, I can't wait till it's finished. Kinda hoping to get something cool like that where I live, but I doubt it....


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#32 2007-06-13 02:03:14

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

Kite973 wrote:

Anyways, I can't wait till it's finished. Kinda hoping to get something cool like that where I live, but I doubt it....

It ain't even started. Nor will it ever be. Here's the deal: Some architect/contractor(e.g. Shimizu Corporation) wants to get some attention, so they make these outlandish proposals with some slick CG and get people excited over something they have absolutely no intention of building. And again, yes, I would like to live in space pyramid.

Ed_D_Mighty wrote:

yeah, i thought Evangelion, myself, though i didn't get through the whole video.

bubblegum crisis (not 2040, i refuse to acknowledge that piece of shit was in any way related to the original OAVs greatness) was more of an alternate present type future rather than a huge technological future. actually, to draw a little bit more on my geek trivia, it would probably be A LOT closer in kind to Ghost in the Shell future than anything else, because, if i recall correctly, evangelion's pyramids were underground...

Yes, 2040 was an abomination, to be sure. But in the original, they also had a huge complex in Tokyo Bay(I think the first OVA) and huge pyramid buildings, a la Blade Runner. Closer to Mayan pyramids though.

Vash_ wrote:

what? I'm intrigued over this bubble economy thing....

Massive over investment in the late 80's, mostly in real estate but also in grandiose projects like:

Seagaia/Ocean Dome - A giant indoor beach built.............next to the beach. Went bankrupt, later rescued by Sheraton.

Zaus(SSAWS) - A giant indoor ski slope. Demolished a few years ago for an Ikea.

Kansai International Airport - A massive airport built on the water in Osaka Bay. They say it's almost finished sinking. hmm

Odaiba - Large man made island in Tokyo Bay. Ok, this one worked out ok in the end but for a while there it wasn't looking good.

There are some other but I can't think of them right now.


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#33 2007-06-13 03:03:30

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Zaus(SSAWS) - A giant indoor ski slope. Demolished a few years ago for an Ikea.

Who wouldn't want more Ikeas? Sure, their furniture leaves a lot to be desired (although the desk i'm using and the chair I'm sitting on came from there, and I can at least say they're still standing wink), but their waffle cones are excellent! Go figure...

Kansai International Airport - A massive airport built on the water in Osaka Bay. They say it's almost finished sinking. hmm

Heh, you made it sound like it failed and ended up submerged. I was expecting an underwater airport! Let down hmm

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#34 2007-06-13 03:46:14

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The desk I'm using is from Ikea too...and my bed and bookshelf. Thank God for Ikea, otherwise I'd still be sleeping on a futon on the floor. I didn't try the waffle cone but the Swedish meatballs were välsmakande!

Underwater airport sounds pretty cool. I think that's Shimizu's next project.


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#35 2007-06-13 12:53:48

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

crossbones wrote:

Wha? I've never heard of that but I'll ask around. Where were they putting the trash??? I wonder if that's got to do with Odaiba. They had to keep adding dirt because the land kept settling into the sea. Even something as simple as that took years and trillions of yen to accomplish.

Now that I think about it, it was probably speculation. Kind of like Odaiba, I heard that instead of simply adding dirt, [super] compressed trash was also added to impede the sinking. The idea was to kill two birds with one stone (trash disposal and keep Tokyo afloat).

crossbones wrote:

Underwater airport sounds pretty cool. I think that's Shimizu's next project.

To get more attention/promotion. But isn't the Shimizu corp. doing VERY well? They're the only Japanese contractor name I know.

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#36 2007-06-13 14:33:58

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

seiryu wrote:

crossbones wrote:

Underwater airport sounds pretty cool. I think that's Shimizu's next project.

To get more attention/promotion. But isn't the Shimizu corp. doing VERY well? They're the only Japanese contractor name I know.

Whoa pause button! Can you even call it an airport?? Do you mean like a gigantic building built underwater that somehow rockets airplanes out of the ocean and into 5000+ feet in the air? Or do you mean submarine-like transportation underwater?

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#37 2007-06-13 15:48:29

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It probably has a runway up top and everyone waits underwater. If anyone can find a way to make an airplane lift from under the surface of the water up into the air and be able to fly, I'll be seriously impressed.

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#38 2007-06-13 17:12:22

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Woah, slow down guys. He was being sarcastic roll


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#39 2007-06-13 17:19:35

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Still an underwater airport that shoots out aircraft like something out of The Thunderbirds, now thats future development Ill support. smile

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#40 2007-06-14 07:22:45

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Re: 3000 ft. pyramid proposed for Tokyo bay

crossbones wrote:

the_laughing_fool wrote:

Wait, so the future Tokyo is going to be like Dangaizer 3?
(grins!!!!)

Hmm. I was thinking Bubblegum Crisis, myself. wink

What about Patlabor? tongue

Seriously though, I doubt either sky city or the pirimid will be built in my lifetime.


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#41 2011-12-01 22:08:12

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Lord_Illpallazzo wrote:

don't know how new this idea is, but i just saw it over at gizmodo.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/great-pyrami … 268111.php

HOLY CRAP! that looks crazy.

I tried to open the link but it didn't work for me.
I think either the link is dead or have I slow internet connectivity due to which I'm unable to view it?


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