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My best guess is that since Naruto controls the majority of the Kyuubi's chakra as it is, Naruto's bijuu transformation looks like a giant Kyuubi shaped chakra cloak around Naruto instead of a flesh and blood manifestation of the tailed beast itself. In other words, whereas Bee and the other jinchuuriki simply lets the bijuu fully take over, Naruto is still the one in full control in his bijuu mode. This would also explain the time limit. Naruto hasn't trained sufficiently yet to be able to wield all that power for an unlimited amount of time.

I wondered about Sasuke. How will he even play into any of this, anymore? He seems to have completely gone to the backburner in story as there are obviously more pressing matters.

So what in the fuck does Sasuke want, anymore, and how does that have to do with Tobi?

UneasySpider, the explanation that I am seeing is that Kyuubii's Yin chakra is sealed away with the death god, which is why we see this kind of transformation.

pilkman, this is also why, I believe, we're not going to see an actual full transformation for Nine-tails..

Edit: although we did see its fleshed form during the Pain arc..
Now I'm confused too.

Last edited by Chill (2012-01-26 23:10:27)

I truly enjoy having no idea what will happen next chapter. This is what a good manga is about.

the nine tails is giving every bit to naruto now, though naruto can't control it for long, and from the looks of it the nine tails might be the strongest of all of them.  all that, plus having guy, kakashi and 8 tails on his side and already having taken down 4 tales, that enough to have it make sense i think.

It's weird to me seeing the tailed beasts as kids.  I mean, aren't they essentially giant chakra-monsters formed from the torn-apart chakra of an even bigger chakra monster?  It's not like they were "born" and had a subsequent infant stage.  Maybe that's just me.

UneasySpider wrote:

Also.. I thought all the jinchu were hated by their tailed beasts..

Maybe they hate humanity in general for their treatment, but have a grudging respect/tolerance for their hosts for the crap they also have to go through.

I just wished Naruto would be invaluable as an asset (that's how he was treated in the beggining of the arc) throughout the whole arc instead of being almost the messiah who will solve the war (instead of the combined efforts of thousands of people)

Imagine Naruto not getting out so fast and start kicking serious butt as he did. Instead, everyone else BUT him and bee would deal with most (if not all) of the fights. That's what I liked so much about the beggining of the arc: lots and lots of side characters with something worth seeing got to fight (and therefore had some screen time). It felt, until this last chapter, that Naruto got ungodly powers ( he took on 7/2 bijuu, at the same time) and was going to keep on solving every battle possible (he did that literally at first, than started his fight with the big bad alongside Bee). His power just makes every other character look horribly weak in comparison. Even if he is the titular character and the author is trying to convey the message that you can be strong and respected if work really hard, he is kind of contradicting himself if you look towards Sakura, or most of the other characters. Yeah they do work their butts off to get stronger, but Kakashi and Neji don't redefine landscapes with beams of condensed awesomeness power.

Funny thing is: Kishimoto must have read my mind. This last chapter just shifted focus and lampshaded that Naruto makes other characters that were supposed to be incredibly powerful (like Kakashi and Guy used to be) seem weak-ass red-shirts. The double page on the second chapter seemed kinda unnecessary, but it was well drawn, as his landscapes usually are.

I reread what I just wrote and I'm not sure if I explained myself correctly. I blame english being my second language.

I believe I follow. Frankly, it's true. At the same time, though, it was supposed to be this way all along. He got this far in saving the village, but when it was the whole of ninja-dom, he just kept doing it. Because he's not so much goal oriented, as himself being himself.

I think it's more a tale of a personality unlike any other.

I think Tobi knows something about Sasuke's current condition that the rest of us do not.. I think naruto was supported to deal with bringing out sasuke's worst, and somehow sasuke is a major if not the most important part of this plot... but... how?

Well, Lets go back to what we know about what we DON'T know:

- What Sasuke has to do with any of this.
- Who Tobi REALLY is.
- What Kabuto will do/wants.

Considering all of these, and how weak wanting to take over the world is for a main villain, it's important to be ready for something pretty shocking in the next coming weeks or month/s.

Lets hope so because the whole chibi tailed beast stuff was pretty bad.
I really loved how the tailed ones were portrayed as evil and untconrollable. I really digged the temporary teamwork between ninetails and naruto just because he hates madara/tobi more (the enemy of my enemy is my frind stuff). now they are just oversized pets who just want to be loved....

How could anyone hate the Bijuu Babies?

In all seriousness, though, I don't think it was ever said that the tailed beasts were evil--just that they were giant masses of hate infused chakra. Naruto has found a way to overcome their hatred, which is in keeping with his ultimate goal of ending the cycle of hatred and violence that has ruled the shinobi world for generations.

The sudden rainfall reminds of the Sasuke vs Itachi, he could be using "that" move again.  Calling it "that" since I honestly don't remember the name.  And Tobi seems awfully nervous right now, he changed from the supposedly cool customer that he was portrayed as till recently.

My single gripe with this whole arc is the lack of development of the "older" characters such as Neji, Rock Lee ect (them being my favs), it seems he threw a way a shining chance to develop some of the characters that were introduced way back in favor of developing the newer ones, like the cloud ninjas.  Unless something drastic happens he's throwing away a golden opportunity.

Anyway... still wondering what happened to Zabuza's sword.