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agreed with @the_laughing_fool in the sense that this is dragging for too long :S ... anyhow the chapter was cool and funny (Franky rampaging in Chopper's body); the question I have is: does Luffy know who the emperors are?

Question: We knew the 4 pre time-skip yonkou. We know Blackbeard and Big Mom have been confirmed Post-skip and Shanks plot wise is guaranteed to still be one.

- but "Post-skip" has Kaido actually been confirmed to 'still' be one of the 4?

I'm sure he has but I can't seem to remember when. Any help happily accepted.

the_laughing_fool wrote:

Badmanversion1 wrote:

Question: We knew the 4 pre time-skip yonkou. We know Blackbeard and Big Mom have been confirmed Post-skip and Shanks plot wise is guaranteed to still be one.

- but "Post-skip" has Kaido actually been confirmed to 'still' be one of the 4?

I'm sure he has but I can't seem to remember when. Any help happily accepted.

Well, near as I can remember, X Drake was challenging Kaido, but if he was already strong enough to tackle a Yonkou, I doubt Kizarou would have been able to beat him so quickly. Odds are good that Kaido is still an emperor and I feel he's the one Law wants to fight.

Why him and not the Big Mam? For him to decide to challenge one of the Emperors must related as to why we haven't seen any of Law's crew members.

LostPirate wrote:

the_laughing_fool wrote:

Badmanversion1 wrote:

Question: We knew the 4 pre time-skip yonkou. We know Blackbeard and Big Mom have been confirmed Post-skip and Shanks plot wise is guaranteed to still be one.

- but "Post-skip" has Kaido actually been confirmed to 'still' be one of the 4?

I'm sure he has but I can't seem to remember when. Any help happily accepted.

Well, near as I can remember, X Drake was challenging Kaido, but if he was already strong enough to tackle a Yonkou, I doubt Kizarou would have been able to beat him so quickly. Odds are good that Kaido is still an emperor and I feel he's the one Law wants to fight.

Why him and not the Big Mam? For him to decide to challenge one of the Emperors must related as to why we haven't seen any of Law's crew members.

I just figured this would be a good way to intoduce Kaido. He's the only yonkou we haven't met yet.

Rhekarid wrote:

This page makes it pretty clear that Kaido is still one of the emperors: http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-cha … age-9.html

Whether Luffy knows who the emperors are is uncertain...he was right there in that conversation, but being Luffy, he also wasn't listening.

Yep thants the page I was remembering - thanks for that, I dont mind who Law means as I'm sure It'll work out great.

If it is Big Mom it could possibly mean Luffy returning to Fishman Island... Prophecy ?


Geez, my mind just keeps thinking of stupid ideas now ...


Maybe Luffy'll say no, then CC will surrender peacfully to the marines and reveal who joker is then the strawhats will go have a picnic on the next island where at no point do they get in any trouble at all.... WOW mostest awesomest arc yet !! (Sarc BTW)

I'm hoping it's not Big Mom and the arc culminates in an epic 2 vs 2 battle with Law and Luffy on one side and Big Mom and Kaido on the other (it can't be Blackbeard or Shanks, unless the plot is coming to a close, which I hope it isn't).

chapter's out
i have been following this thread since amazon lily arc .. but i was very lazy to register lol .. now that i registered :
1st .. i don't think trafalgar law has ever been as humiliated as this chapter XD
2nd .. i think oda played some kind of mmorpg game before he made this arc .. first a dragon .. then a harpy .. after that 2 huge trolls/cyclopes .. now a slime ?
last thing .. now i am 95% sure that the emperor law wanna take down is big mom .. cuz luffy accepted the alliance and luffy had never pulled a fight with someone without a reason

Aye, Luffy did say that Zoro and Sanji are haki users too.

Loved it when Chopper was placed on Law's head and then fell off ending up like those charms people have on phones and stuff, hanging off Law's sword. Poor Chopper though, broken body and he didn't even do anything.

Do you think that Caesar made/used the slime to cause the incident?

memomos wrote:

last thing .. now i am 95% sure that the emperor law wanna take down is big mom .. cuz luffy accepted the alliance and luffy had never pulled a fight with someone without a reason

I don't really see how this confirms that, infact did Luffy not join up just because he thinks Law is a good guy? I doubt that Luffy put two and two together and linked it with taking out Big Mum. I mean, come on, this is Luffy we're talking about haha.

Having said that, I still think the Yonkou will be Big Mum.

Last edited by WinCH (2012-05-23 09:54:07)

definitely funny chapter! Luffy at his best here...

noone has mentioned the cover, very cool that both were buried side by side...plus the text on the side mentions big mom, which is pointing to what most of us are thinking (the emperor they are after is big mom)

additionally, we got the confirmation of haki usage for sanji and zoro; I was hoping that ussop (or others) could use some haki too...do you think they'll teach the others?

I can't see it being Big Mom either. The sheer fact that Oda went out of his way to avoid telling us makes me want to say it's something bigger. Since Kaidou is still an unknown factor, I would assume Shanks or Blackbeard. But I can't imagine Luffy wanting help when he takes on Shanks, so that would (at least in my logic) leave Blackbeard. While he has been built up pretty big, Blackbeard isn't necessarily the last boss (at the same time, if it is Blackbeard, it doesn't mean it'll be happening now).

My last bit of thought is that kidnapping Caesar seems to be part of Laws Four-E plan, not just to help Luffy. With that in mind, I'd say he has a connection to one of the Emperors. Now way would Shanks ally with someone like him, so that leaves the other 3. Caesar is messing with mass murder weapons which I can defiantly see Blackbeard being interested in. Big Mom I don't think is too likely based on the 2 members of her crew that we've seen, or her general actions. Kaidou is still a huge unknown factor, so he's possible still.


And, most importantly, this chapter still didn't answer what I wanted to know. What tom-foolery happened that could possibly KO Sanji and Zoro? I still think it's going to be something that's more of a joke then anything else.

Some good theories and points made. Personally I'm still leaning towards Big Mum despite the reaction of the rest of the crew. If I had to choose another Yonkou then maybe Kaidou? But seems a bit abrupt to just bring in Kaidou now when Big Mum was only just brought into the picture not long ago. Of course, this alliance may not lead to anything straight away and may just be paving the way for much later events in the future.

I do like the sounds of meeting up with Shanks, or Law wanting to take out Shanks...BUT, I don't think Luffy's logic is that messed up? Surely, even he would want to stop Law going against his beloved Shanks, no?

well if we remember correctly, CC was vegapunks research assistant. And the VA that was in charge of the science division before sentoumaru was X Drake, and he went after Kaidou, who had a cyborg on his crew. I'm thinking that its kaidou, and this ties in with he whole vegapunk, kaidou, and X drake. also its oda, keep in mind he'll do the thing u least expect.