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I think Oda does this on purpose. He ramps up his readers interest by making a huge cliff hanger and then going on vacation.
edit: Oh shit, I just thought of something. What if it isn't that the poison Luffy inhaled finally caught up with him. What if, since the gas CC generates is still part of his body, CC is actually manipulating the inhaled gas and destroying Luffy from within. I'm not sure if that's what's going on, but that would be a cool move by CC.

Last edited by the_laughing_fool (2012-06-13 10:00:04)

Rhekarid wrote:

Call me crazy, but from the way Law went down, I would almost think someone has HIS heart just as he has Smoker's.

@Rhekarid I was thinking the same thing. He is grabbing his chest, looked in a lot of pain, fell to the floor while bleeding from his mouth. Who ever is doing this has to be quite strong/sick ability (Kaidou) or someone that could have his heart (Vegapunk)?

anyhow we'll find out in 2 long weeks

I'm so out of it... I thought it was Wednesday. sorry all.

EDIT: Suffocation would be my guess. Also, I think the man laws knows is vegapunk. If Law knew him when he was young, it would explain the hella advanced medical technology that was in his sub (that was modern tech, while everyone else has maybe 1880 - 1920 level tech). Also, didn't Law and Vegapunk both come from North Blue? The coldy mc cold area?

Last edited by Tsukasa111 (2012-06-13 20:35:47)

LostPirate wrote:

the_laughing_fool wrote:

I'm not sure if Logia works that way. Magellan could manufacture several different kinds of poisons with his Paramecia DF. But as far as we know, Akainu isn't able to make different kinds of lava with his Logia powers. Granted, Gas is a little different. But I would guess that his Gasu Gasu no Mi only makes him something like methane or something.

Didn't know there's supposed to be more than one type of lava. It's possible CC can create different types of gases with his DF ability like Magellan.

I think the main point that @the_laughing_fool wants to make is that their types are different (Paramecia - Magellan vs Logia - CC), so my conclusion is that they are unable to make the same/similar things...

c3rb3ru5 wrote:

who is that?....look like aokiji shoes....

That's the million dollar question. Cookie to whoever guesses it.

So I'm gonna go with Michael Jackson. He had shoes like that.
Yep, Birdwoman's a fan so she isn't affected, but Law's on his knees coughing blood to his utter fail (or sexiness depending on your preferences).
It's not like it can be haki that causes Law to fall down like that, so that's the only explanation.

Anyone else going for the cookie? Ya can't say MJ, mind you, that answer's taken.

Last edited by Tharkûn (2012-06-15 07:17:46)

I want that cookie so I'm gonnna guess; Trafalgar Law!!!!!11!1one

Seriously tho I'd say it's the Joker, who will be revealed to be Donquixote Doflamingo. Makes sense to me since the person seems to apparently be able to hurt Law without doing anything. Also those shoes look like standard high ranked marine shoes.

vegapunk....

Hm... Since the odds of it being a partner of Caesar's is pretty high, it's either got to be Joker or someone higher up that's using Caesar's knowledge. I'd like to think that "joker" isn't a code name for a character we already know so just assume Joker is Joker for the time being.

If it's a "partner" of Caesar's it isn't necessarily the main person, but certainly affiliated with someone up there. I could see it being someone representing Donflamingo (who remains a mystery but has been seen on several occasions with a hand in a lot of pots), Big Mom (mostly because after the end of the last arc, I can see this arc holding a similar role to Little Garden did for Crocodile), or Akinu (spelling?).

My thoughts on lavaman is that he's shown he'd do anything to carry out his brand of justice. Caesar is developing WMD. It's not a huge stretch to think that lavaman might have some interest in what's going on there, even enough to keep what's going on there a secret from the rest of the WG.

Razum wrote:

My thoughts on lavaman is that he's shown he'd do anything to carry out his brand of justice. Caesar is developing WMD. It's not a huge stretch to think that lavaman might have some interest in what's going on there, even enough to keep what's going on there a secret from the rest of the WG.

I like the idea that Akainu (Aka as in Red and Inu as in Dog) is the shadowy figure. He certainly would want more advanced weapons to kill more pirates. And Jimbie did say he was ramping up the Marines. The only flaw I see in this logic is that Akainu isn't a compromiser. He may have no problem letting a scientist like Caesar build weapons for him, but he'd be doing it behind bars. Absolute Justice doesn't allow for letting wanted criminals have freedom. Still, it could be him. Vegapunk seems to be too obvious. This is Oda, people. The man makes it his mission to do what we least expect.

the_laughing_fool wrote:

Razum wrote:

My thoughts on lavaman is that he's shown he'd do anything to carry out his brand of justice. Caesar is developing WMD. It's not a huge stretch to think that lavaman might have some interest in what's going on there, even enough to keep what's going on there a secret from the rest of the WG.

I like the idea that Akainu (Aka as in Red and Inu as in Dog) is the shadowy figure. He certainly would want more advanced weapons to kill more pirates. And Jimbie did say he was ramping up the Marines. The only flaw I see in this logic is that Akainu isn't a compromiser. He may have no problem letting a scientist like Caesar build weapons for him, but he'd be doing it behind bars. Absolute Justice doesn't allow for letting wanted criminals have freedom. Still, it could be him. Vegapunk seems to be too obvious. This is Oda, people. The man makes it his mission to do what we least expect.

Also the whole kidnapping kids bit doesn't seem like something even Akainu would do and then cover it up.

Then again, Akainu isn't exactly the highest point in the government. Maybe someone higher up has a hand in this.
It just doesn't seem like Akainu would do this, making a deal with a criminal to catch pirates/criminals. I think he's more the kind of guy who wouldn't make deals with anyone.

Akainu is the kind of guy to trick people into accomplishing 'his justice' though; remember Squardo? Akainu deceived Squardo into betraying Whitebeard, so there is potential for Akainu to do something, maybe not this, but he's definitely not so straight forward.

Having said all that, I don't think the person before Law now is Akainu. For me, it's either Vegapunk, Joker or Doflamingo (the similarity between the latter's and Law's jolly rogers has got to mean something, or am i reading too much into it? ). Someone said it a few posts back, but I also had the thought that someone actually has Law's heart because of the way he's clutching at his chest, etc. Based on this I can only think of Vegapunk or Doflamingo.

What the ass? Chapter this week? Nothing saying it was skipping a week.