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so, how does the original pose adapt to where the 1st island is? theres went to whiskey peak, and they indeed were headed there, but why didnt it take a different route?

kongle wrote:

arabasta was on the rute they were going so they didnt change rute

and by the way there have been several people to sky island before

WRONG! look again. Little Garden leads to different Islands than Arabasta. Arabasta leads to Skypiea. Jaya is not on the same route as skypiea. That is why Nami is concerned about them staying on Jaya for more than a few days because thats when the log will set.

They simply HAD to go to Arabasta so they got the Eternal Pose for it.

They should let Usopp tinker around with a spare log/eternal pose for a bit to see if he can jimmy out a functional compass for the Grand Line with it...

No, you can't. They would all point to the same destination. Having more log poses on board doesn't mean they will point in different directions.

I think you mean four eternal poses, one for each island in the corners of the Grand Line. Am I right?

it's been discussed before.

There is no possible way to create a normal compass.

And it  would be too confusing even with eternal poses. and they'd only work within a small area.

And to get that to work right they'd have to build a pretty large wheel and remark each island name with north south east west.

Problem is the grand line isn't a SQUARE! it's a looong line. really big and goes all the way around the earth.

if you want me to make a map explaining why it will not work, let me know.

Cody2526 wrote:

kongle wrote:

arabasta was on the rute they were going so they didnt change rute

and by the way there have been several people to sky island before

WRONG! look again. Little Garden leads to different Islands than Arabasta. Arabasta leads to Skypiea. Jaya is not on the same route as skypiea. That is why Nami is concerned about them staying on Jaya for more than a few days because thats when the log will set.

They simply HAD to go to Arabasta so they got the Eternal Pose for it.

Igaram said that little garden path leads to Alabasta, after a few islands (sombody already pointed that out, shoulda read all the posts)... I dont think Igaram would have taken the eternal pose and left them to follow the path if it didn't lead there.

And you can't say for sure that the Alabasta path leads to Jaya or Sorajima because the people at the bar said that the log "somtimes" points to the sky - maybe because of the fact that its floating around the Jaya area, I dunno, maybe it only somtimes has priority over main Jaya - and the Sorajim path that they go on after the log sets may be the same as the path after Jaya, that part is left to complete speculation.  As of Skypiea, they're on the same path - if you count Shandra as a part of Jaya. ^_^

Cody2526 wrote:

Also, is it me or does vivi look different iin laboon, slightly changed in whiskey peak and then totally different after that?

I would think so. In Laboon, her hair and bangs were tied back. In later episodes, here bangs are to the sides.

Cody2526, one island never branches off into more than one other island, but they do join as you go along, there are no "forks in the road" on the routes, and they never intertwine (according to the map in the laboon episode).  The paths dont "CROSS" but they do "MERGE" with each other. So another path may also have lead to Alabasta at some point, but that doesn't change the fact that their first path still also lead to Alabasta, so they are still on the same path.

Can't do that unless you are actually on raftel though

Badmanversion1 wrote:

Someone Should Just Make A Raftel Eternal Pose

I think its likely that Gol D. Roger had one, and now it either distroyed or hidden in some place where no one will ever find it.

Or its in Luffy's hat and Luffy has no idea what it is.

Inferno wrote:

Larben wrote:

Yeah, and when you've eaten a logia-fruit, your body is made up entirely of that element, right? If that is so, your body should age like the element too.

not necessarily. Enel isn't "made up" of that element all the time. He still has blood, internal organs, etc. and isn't just pure lightning or energy. but his power allows him to TURN into pure lightning, for however long he wants.

he is still technically a normal, but strong, human.

And he wasn't born with it.   He ate the fruit at some point and gained the power.  So it is quite possible others have been and will go to Skypiea and on to the next island, just like Gol D Roger did before Enel came to power and just like the Mugiwaras did after Luffy pwned Enel.

mindpron wrote:

what amuses me is that no one thinks to use solar/lunar navigation. The sun/moon always rises in the east and sets in the west, use that and you have two cardinal directions which to navigate by. More reliable than a southbird or log pose any day.

There are near enough constant storms on the grand line. Nice thought though

i thought that since there were several different paths, if you moved to a different path using an eternal pose, you would follow the new path with the log pose, after it adjusts. not that many people went to skypiea probably because they had a similar thought like bellamy, that it was impossible to have an island in the sky. so, most people who had the log poses pointing to the sky changed to a different route, and the few that didnt probably died on the way their, or killed early upon arrival by guerillas.